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seyedali
deepin
2017-04-25 04:54
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hello,
I recently install deepin v15.4 and ran command
  1. cat /proc/version
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the result was:

Linux version 4.9.0-deepin4-amd64 (yangbo@deepin.com) (gcc version 6.2.0 20161103 (Debian 6.2.0-11) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Deepin 4.9.8-4 (2017-04-17)
is this distro based on Debian 6 which recording to this https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases even its LTS version's life ended in 2016?
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faska
deepin
2017-04-25 06:13
#1
Wow! I got the same output! That explains why some apps are outdated like Firefox, flatpak 0.6.13 and many others.
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seyedali
deepin
2017-04-25 13:35
#2
what about security, bugs fixing and etc which happened on debian 7 and 8?

should we worried about this matters?
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th3blad3runn3r
deepin
2017-04-27 00:02
#3
Edited by th3blad3runn3r at 2017-4-26 19:00

What's in /proc/version :
  •     Exact version of the Linux kernel used in your OS: Linux version 4.9.0
  •     Name of the user who compiled your kernel, and also a host name where it happened: https://bbs.deepin.org/module
  •     Version of the GCC compiler used for building the kernel: gcc version 6.2.0 20161103
  •     Type of the kernel – SMP here means Symmetric MultiProcessing kernel, the one that supports systems with multiple CPUs or multiple cpu cores
  •     Date and time when the kernel was built: 2017-04-17

Long story short:
6.2.0 refers to the C compiler used to build the kernel.
Kernel itself is 4.9.0, which is the 'only' important thing (in fact, not only, but let's say that most of the security patches and improvments are embedded within the kernel. Ever heard of monolithics kernels ?)

Kernel 4.9.x appears in Debian 'Stretch' aka... Debian 9


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faska
2017-04-27 03:07
Thank you for the enlightenment!
yangbo
deepin
2017-04-27 00:41
#4
secuirty fixes are backported to 4.9.8 for deepin kernel

besides, there are bugfixes which are not debian kernel

planning to update to latest 4.9.y in several months
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nipos
deepin
2017-04-27 04:14
#5
Why is Deepin using kernel 4.9?
I use Arch Linux and I have kernel 4.10.11.
I think the 4.10.X kernel has been available for a long time now.
Updating the kernel would bring some fixes and probably also improve driver support.
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th3blad3runn3r
deepin
2017-04-27 10:01
#6
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/138400
What's in /proc/version :
  •     Exact version of the Linux kernel used in your OS: Linux version 4 ...

  • You're welcome
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    seyedali
    deepin
    2017-04-27 12:55
    #7
    Edited by seyedali at 2017-4-27 04:59

    @th3blad3runn3r
    so many thanks
    so now how do we find Debian version?
    I want to install Nvidia or other software which I need to know Debian version
    and one more question about this:
    Linux version 4.9.0-deepin4-amd64 (yangbo@deepin.com) (gcc version 6.2.0 20161103 (Debian 6.2.0-11) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Deepin 4.9.8-4 (2017-04-17)

    what is this part meaning: (Debian 6.2.0-11)?

    @nipos
    I think it's because kernel 4.9 is LTS one

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    wanywhn
    deepin
    2017-04-27 15:14
    #8
    seyedali 发表于 2017-4-27 04:55
    Edited by seyedali at 2017-4-27 04:59

    @th3blad3runn3r

    i think it is to  describe gcc .do you see '('and ')'? 6.2.0 is the version of gcc .it just stress that it is compile on debian
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    th3blad3runn3r
    deepin
    2017-04-28 01:51
    #9
    Edited by th3blad3runn3r at 2017-4-27 11:05
    https://bbs.deepin.org/post/138400
    @th3blad3runn3r
    so many thanks
    so now how do we find Debian version?

    FYI :
    Debian current and expected versions table
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_version_history

    I'm not sure I totally understand your question : 'so now how do we find debian version' ?
    What do you mean ? Find the closest debian version to deepin ? In this case, it should be something like 9...
    Remember, deepin is debian based, not a debian clone.
    Deepin developers have made their 'own' kernel, labeled v4.9.x, but this one in some aspects, may already include security or enhancement patches present in superior version. See yangbo's post in this thread.
    Still here ? ;)

    For your Nvidia software, use the latest (greatest debian version provided).
    This should work fine wtih V8 aka 'Jessie',
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    seyedali
    deepin
    2017-04-28 09:22
    #10
    ok, so if I understand well if we want to install anything, document for installing on Debian 8 should be enough right?
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    th3blad3runn3r
    deepin
    2017-04-28 12:54
    #11
    Edited by th3blad3runn3r at 2017-4-27 21:57

    Most of the time... Yes... !
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    seyedali
    deepin
    2017-04-28 13:09
    #12
    https://bbs.deepin.org/post/138400
    Most of the time... Yes... !

    Thank you for all of your guidance.
    I really want to close this topic but ...

    why did you say most of the time?
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    wanywhn
    deepin
    2017-04-28 15:43
    #13
    seyedali 发表于 2017-4-28 05:09
    Thank you for all of your guidance.
    I really want to close this topic but ...


    because anything could happen.。◕‿◕。
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    th3blad3runn3r
    deepin
    2017-04-29 02:17
    #14
    Edited by th3blad3runn3r at 2017-4-28 11:26
    https://bbs.deepin.org/post/138400
    Thank you for all of your guidance.
    I really want to close this topic but ...

    Because IT is not an exact science !
    Depending on the moon phase, wind direction, you may encounter various problems (dependencies, for instance), which may make the journey harder...

    Anyway, sitting in front of your screen, wondering 'what if', won't help you making the first step.
    Try ! Fail ! and in the end, you'll go forward

    Don't worry too much, you won't be the first, nor the last one to entirely crash your system !
    (Just kidding !)


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    seyedali
    deepin
    2017-04-29 06:41
    #15
    thanks for all help and advice. so I'm going to break my system
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    th3blad3runn3r
    deepin
    2017-04-29 08:32
    #16
    Edited by th3blad3runn3r at 2017-4-28 17:34

    May the force be with you, young padawan
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