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tupnip
deepin^0
发表于2016-10-16 00:06
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Linux Deepin seems to be an amazing open source distribution of Linux developed in China, yet China is infamous for censorship.

Because an Operating System is such a low-level element in our digital lives, users need to trust it 100%. Windows and Mac have backdoors and are not worthy of trust. However Deepin as an alternative comes from a country with the Great Firewall of China and appears to be funded by 'Wuhan Technology' company.

Also, open source software can still have malicious code in it, provided people checking the code don't find it. Vulnerabilities like Adobe Flash player can be left intentionally not up to date.

Despite this, I trust Deepin. I do, however, have a hard time explaining to other people why they should install Deepin on their computers. I hope you can provide objective answers to the following questions.

1) How can 'Wuhan Technology' afford to pay for the highly-skilled Deepin developers (and hosting) if the product makes no money, harvests no data and is only for the good of humanity?

2) What motivation (other than humanitarian) is there to make Deepin?

3) How would you convince a skeptic that there are no hidden catches?

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wangyong
deepin^7
发表于2016-11-09 04:35
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>  1) How can 'Wuhan Technology' afford to pay for the highly-skilled Deepin developers (and hosting) if the product makes no money, harvests no data and is only for the good of humanity?

We have a lot of corporate customers paying to support our annual R & D costs

>  2) What motivation (other than humanitarian) is there to make Deepin?

We believe that Deepin will do as the Mac as beautiful and easy to use operating system, rather than just packaged community of semi-finished products for users to be disappointed with Linux

> 3) How would you convince a skeptic that there are no hidden catches?

Our source code is all open in real time based on the GPL3 protocol, and many other distributions, such as ArchLinux, are building deepin desktop environments and deepin applications from source, and everyone in the community can review and compile our source code to prove that our system does not have any backdoors or malicious programs
不避风云
deepin^5
发表于2016-11-09 04:50
板凳
大家聊的好开心,都在说啥来?
wangyong
deepin^7
发表于2016-11-09 04:56
地板
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
大家聊的好开心,都在说啥来?

To answer international friends, please use English or bilingual, to show respect.
(回答国际友人的请用英文或者双语, 以示尊重。)
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keepitss
2016-11-12 08:02
。。。勇哥你这机翻不好用啊
cosecant
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-09 05:14
4楼
I just think DEEPIN OS is easy to use for Chinese.  Also, DEEPIN OS has a beautiful UI
keepitss
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-09 06:12
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stevex 发表于 2016-10-17 00:50
Hi. To my mind., Deepin OS is probably one of the most secure and trustworthy  of the current Linux  ...

as a Chinese , sorry , i don't think so
zhouyixing
deepin^5
发表于2016-11-09 06:33
6楼
i am passing by.
summving
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-09 06:55
7楼
why don't trust? people said windows os are not safe, but i still using them.
shaolin123
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-09 09:24
8楼
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
To answer international friends, please use English or bilingual, to show respect.
(回答国际友人的 ...

此言差矣,没见我们去所谓的国际友人那里问问题别人都要求我们用英语吗?
来了中文论坛还得用中文才行。
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Kenkaku
2016-11-09 23:02
而且外国友人提问时也不全是用英语
zhixiang
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-11 08:04
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https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
此言差矣,没见我们去所谓的国际友人那里问问题别人都要求我们用英语吗?
来了中文论坛还得用中文才行。 ...

SO,I think I have to go to learn English.
kingskill
deepin^7
发表于2016-11-11 08:26
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本帖最后由 kingskill 于 2016-11-11 16:27 编辑
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
Did you mean ethics rather than ethnic?  

I still use Windows and also use Qubes, TAILS, Raspbian ...

Policeman can jail U, not the Gov.

And Mac/Win can jail ur behavior.

That's the point.
jarvan
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-11 13:32
11楼
open means great
不避风云
deepin^5
发表于2016-11-12 03:20
12楼
就是凭啥就不信任中国的发行版,看题目就感觉有歧视。
rekols
deepin^7
发表于2016-11-12 07:51
13楼
老外用中文聊天啊
keepitss
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-12 08:00
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本帖最后由 keepitss 于 2016-11-12 16:12 编辑
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
就是凭啥就不信任中国的发行版,看题目就感觉有歧视。

鉴于我国的特殊情况,你应该可以理解他的顾虑
Accroding to the special political situation in China, I suppose I can understand what he's concerned about.

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quxiand
2018-05-10 04:01
中肯~  zhongken~ (带英文翻译)
stevex
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-13 03:19
15楼
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
as a Chinese , sorry , i don't think so

Hi. I meant "secure" in the sense  that any malicious code running in the background of Deepin OS would be known by the security agencies of the Chinese, USA, and other nations who are certainly keeping a close eye on Deepin, which is not to say that these agencies could and would not try to insert their own spyware into Deepin OS.  But such attempts would likely result in a stalemate between agencies. Thus, Deepin is secure in the sense that so many people are examining it for security incursions.
xiaobo
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-13 03:45
16楼
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
To answer international friends, please use English or bilingual, to show respect.
(回答国际友人的 ...

这不是中文论坛吗。。。。
cuixiaofei
deepin^5
发表于2016-11-13 03:56
17楼
敢情咱中国网友都是会双语的,以后多用双语回答了感觉不错,哈哈哈
SO,I think I have to go to learn English.
keepitss
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-13 14:28
18楼
https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
Hi. I meant "secure" in the sense  that any malicious code running in the background of Deepin OS  ...

Hi, I can understand what you are concerned about. But I'm sure there's no spyware on deepin or even on linux.
First of all, deepin is a open-source system which means anyone can download and anlayze the source code of it. So there's no room for the 'hiding' spyware.
Besides, it also takes money to develop a spyware. Everyone just wants to get more from less insert. Deepin just takes a very very small part of the PC OS and as far as I know there's no chinese bureau or server provider that choose deepin as the main OS. And windows' marketshare is still more than 90 per cent. I suppose that Mr.CIA and Mr. MI6 prefer to develop spywares on windows.
stevex
deepin^0
发表于2016-11-13 14:55
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https://bbs.deepin.org/post/131637
Hi, I can understand what you are concerned about. But I'm sure there's no spyware on deepin or ev ...

keepitiss, Perhaps I have not been clear, for I am "not" worried about Deepin OS being secure. In my original post I stated that I thought that Deepin OS was probably one of the most secure Linux distros around. I also praised the beauty of open source Linux and praised the Deepin developers for believing in transparency. So I'm happy about Deepin Linux.
egarbin
deepin^0
发表于2017-01-23 14:53
20楼
I want to thank for the creation of the topic and to all who responded. It is a polemic subject, but doubts really exist. The subject matter here was important for me to start using distro in Brazil! Thank you to everyone and congratulations for the Deepin project.
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