[other] 国内的docker何去何从呢
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kero990
deepin
2024-06-07 16:02
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很早docker就被墙了,这我们都知道,只能勉强套着国内源凑合用。

不过最近几天所有国内源拉取镜像都是失败的,

然后昨天ustc的源上多了一条公告

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而我们知道ustc的docker hub源很早以前就只面向校内而不公开了

连这样都要下架,那以后肯定100%没法用,除非你自己搭建。

这意思是国内的docker走到头了吗

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f@deepin
deepin
2024-06-07 16:04
#1

sad

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zijinyise
deepin
2024-06-07 16:54
#2

docker干了什么会被墙,是真不知道

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水月
deepin
2024-06-07 17:18
#3

走到头就到头呗,有什么大不了的?

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dpme
deepin
2024-06-07 17:39
#4

传说和制裁有关

https://www.docker.com/legal/docker-terms-service/

20.8 You understand that the Service is subject to United States export controls administered by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the United States Department of Treasury Office of Foreign Assets Control. You acknowledge and agrees that the Service and any User Content or Third Party Content accessed by you shall not be used, transferred or otherwise exported or re-exported to countries as to which the United States, maintains an embargo (collectively, “Embargoed Countries“), or to or by a national or resident thereof, or any person or entity on the U.S. Department of Treasury’s List of Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Entity List, Denied Persons List, or Unverified List, or the U.S. Department of State’s Nonproliferation Sanctions list (collectively, “Designated Nationals“). The lists of Embargoed Countries and Designated Nationals are subject to change without notice. By using the Service, including without limitation by uploading or accessing any User Content or Third Party Content, you represent and warrant that you are not located in, under the control of, or a national or resident of an Embargoed Country or Designated National. You agree to comply strictly with all U.S. export laws and assume sole responsibility for obtaining United States government export licenses to export or re-export as may be required. You will defend, indemnify, and hold harmless Docker and its suppliers and licensors from and against any violation of such laws or regulations by you or any of your agents, officers, directors or employees.

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zed7th
deepin
2024-06-07 18:04
#5
dpme

传说和制裁有关

https://www.docker.com/legal/docker-terms-service/

20.8 You understand that the Service is subject to United States export controls administered by the U.S. Department of Commerce and the United States Department of Treasury Office of Foreign Assets Control. You acknowledge and agrees that the Service and any User Content or Third Party Content accessed by you shall not be used, transferred or otherwise exported or re-exported to countries as to which the United States, maintains an embargo (collectively, “Embargoed Countries“), or to or by a national or resident thereof, or any person or entity on the U.S. Department of Treasury’s List of Specially Designated Nationals or the U.S. Department of Commerce’s Entity List, Denied Persons List, or Unverified List, or the U.S. Department of State’s Nonproliferation Sanctions list (collectively, “Designated Nationals“). The lists of Embargoed Countries and Designated Nationals are subject to change without notice. By using the Service, including without limitation by uploading or accessing any User Content or Third Party Content, you represent and warrant that you are not located in, under the control of, or a national or resident of an Embargoed Country or Designated National. You agree to comply strictly with all U.S. export laws and assume sole responsibility for obtaining United States government export licenses to export or re-export as may be required. You will defend, indemnify, and hold harmless Docker and its suppliers and licensors from and against any violation of such laws or regulations by you or any of your agents, officers, directors or employees.

和制裁有个鬼关系,正儿八经商业使用 Docker 的公司基本上都会有自建仓库或者用阿里云这些云厂商提供的容器镜像服务,就是因为 Dockerhub 在国内一直没法监管,没有实名认证,有关部门才给 Ban 了的

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蔡EEPIN
deepin
2024-06-07 18:14
#6

用魔法吧

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ThinkYoung
deepin
2024-06-07 18:43
#7

根据网络信息来看,

很多镜像网站未实名认证的都要下架了 不止dockerhub 还有npm,pip等等.....

这些镜像,库,组件,项目,最好还是本地备份一下比较好

自用项目还是得搭建起自用的库和内部镜像,防止断网影响项目

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dpme
deepin
2024-06-07 19:07
#8
zed7th

和制裁有个鬼关系,正儿八经商业使用 Docker 的公司基本上都会有自建仓库或者用阿里云这些云厂商提供的容器镜像服务,就是因为 Dockerhub 在国内一直没法监管,没有实名认证,有关部门才给 Ban 了的

我的观点来自于网上搜到的BLOG,然后去看了Docker的TOS,发现确实有关于制裁的部分。

再说hub就是个镜像托管服务,要管为什么早不管。

quay.io甚至都没有被墙,直接就可以用,都不用国内镜像。

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zed7th
deepin
2024-06-07 20:21
#9
dpme

我的观点来自于网上搜到的BLOG,然后去看了Docker的TOS,发现确实有关于制裁的部分。

再说hub就是个镜像托管服务,要管为什么早不管。

quay.io甚至都没有被墙,直接就可以用,都不用国内镜像。

quay.io 体量能和 dockerhub 一样吗,在上面搜索 nginx,最近一年活跃的镜像都没几个,dockerhub 有多少用户量?国内很多 NAS 用户、软路由用户,他们不是开发人员,也在频繁使用着 docker,而 dockerhub 虽然只是镜像托管网站,但其实带有 UGC 性质的,这也是现在要监管的原因,监管这个事情本来就是一步一步切香肠的,最早 dockerhub 官网访问很畅通,后面加上 DNS 污染,再后面网络阻断,现在连各大高校的镜像站都要求下线

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兆兆嘟嘟嘟
deepin
2024-06-07 23:58
#10

http://registry.docker-cn.com这个镜像还能用不?

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AMZ
deepin
2024-06-08 11:28
#11

没有任何影响

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kero990
deepin
2024-06-13 09:43
#12
dpme

我的观点来自于网上搜到的BLOG,然后去看了Docker的TOS,发现确实有关于制裁的部分。

再说hub就是个镜像托管服务,要管为什么早不管。

quay.io甚至都没有被墙,直接就可以用,都不用国内镜像。

什么叫要管为什么不早管,hub早八百年就被墙了啊

这次是官方突然发现我已经墙了的东西,你们居然还敢搞出镜像来

镜像是什么东西,全给我关了

总有人分不清这次到底是墙了啥,不是墙了docker,封的是镜像,镜像

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kero990
deepin
2024-06-13 09:46
#13
zed7th

和制裁有个鬼关系,正儿八经商业使用 Docker 的公司基本上都会有自建仓库或者用阿里云这些云厂商提供的容器镜像服务,就是因为 Dockerhub 在国内一直没法监管,没有实名认证,有关部门才给 Ban 了的

没法监管的东西多了,但凡是允许用户上传的,都tm没法监管。

你让他把docker的每个镜像,npm的每个包都“监管”一下,他有那个时间精力和人手吗

所以不是什么没法监管,就不可能监管

那么结果很明了了,只有开放和关闭两种选择,监管根本就不是个选项。

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